Feature (disable) request

[Michiel van der Vlist]

Hello Golded team,


Господин модератор, извините за английский. Переводчик Google может
быть полезен время от времени, но это слишком много ....


This may only apply to the Windows versions...


When running Golded it does not use the active code page as set by the CHCP
command, but it uses the default code page that is active when the system is
booted up. In my case code page 850. If there is a way to run it using another
code page, I have not found it.

This "feature" makes it difficult to write messages that use other characters
than those present in the default character set. In my particular case it is
difficult to write messages in Cyrillic. There is the possibility of using an
external editor, but this is cumbersome and normal text editors are based on
text written in lines separated by EOL markers. They can't deal very well with
the concept of "paragraphs" separated by CR, as used in Fidonet messages. Also
the external editor can only be invoked when writing messages, not when just
reading them.

I therefore request that this "feature" is disabled. Preferably configurable
for backward compatibility.

USEACTIVECODEPAGE Yes/No (default No)


Even more nice would be if the active code page could be set per group:


GROUP CYRILLIC
CHCP 866
member R50.SYSOP
member R46.SYSOP
member ru.binkd
XLATIMPORT CP866
XLATLOCALSET CP866
ENDGROUP

It would make writing in the language of my eastern friends so much easier if
there was an easy way to let Golded do CP866 on my system. And maybe the other
way around as wel.


Cheers, Michiel

[Alexey Vissarionov]

Доброго времени суток, Michiel!
09 Mar 2017 14:55:10, ты -> Golded team:

MvdV> This may only apply to the Windows versions...

Yes. Other systems use the concept of "locale".

MvdV> When running Golded it does not use the active code page as set by
MvdV> the CHCP command, but it uses the default code page that is active
MvdV> when the system is booted up. In my case code page 850. If there is
MvdV> a way to run it using another code page, I have not found it.

How the software can get the current codepage?

For example, in a C program in GNU/Linux I can write:

char * locale;
locale = setlocale(LC_CTYPE, NULL);
if(NULL!=locale)
{
/* parse it */
}

MvdV> This "feature" makes it difficult to write messages that use other
MvdV> characters than those present in the default character set. In my
MvdV> particular case it is difficult to write messages in Cyrillic.

What is the "default character set" here?

MvdV> USEACTIVECODEPAGE Yes/No (default No)

Generally, this should be the default unless XlatLocalSet is defined.

MvdV> Even more nice would be if the active code page could be set per
MvdV> group:
MvdV> GROUP CYRILLIC
MvdV> CHCP 866

What do you expect this option to do?

MvdV> member R50.SYSOP
MvdV> member R46.SYSOP
MvdV> member ru.binkd
MvdV> XLATIMPORT CP866
MvdV> XLATLOCALSET CP866
MvdV> ENDGROUP

I'd have a look whether it's possible.


--
Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
gremlin ПРИ gremlin ТЧК ru; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

... У дураков мысли монотонны и ограничены

[Michiel van der Vlist]

Hello Alexey,

On Friday March 10 2017 09:04, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> This "feature" makes it difficult to write messages that use
MvdV>> other characters than those present in the default character
MvdV>> set. In my particular case it is difficult to write messages in
MvdV>> Cyrillic.

AV> What is the "default character set" here?

In my case the characters defined in CP850. My systems boots up in CP850. I can
change de active codepage a command window with the CHCP command. When I use
the Alt num method to enter characters in the range 128-255 and I type Alt 168
when the active codepage is 850, I see the inverted question mark. When I
change the code page to 866 I get the inverted capital N. This is not just the
case for the command window itself, but for most programms running in the
command window. Such as edit.

But... not for Golded. When I change the current code page to 866, it has no
effect on Golded. When I enter Alt 168, what I see is the inverted quastion
mark и. YOu will probably see it as the inverted capital N on your screen, but
what I see is the inverted question mark. Corresponding to CP 850.

MvdV>> USEACTIVECODEPAGE Yes/No (default No)

AV> Generally, this should be the default unless XlatLocalSet is defined.

XlatLocalSet has no effect in the Windows version of Golded.

MvdV>> Even more nice would be if the active code page could be set
MvdV>> per
MvdV>> group:
MvdV>> GROUP CYRILLIC
MvdV>> CHCP 866

AV> What do you expect this option to do?

Coming to think of it, XLATLOCALSET should take care of that...

MvdV>> member R50.SYSOP
MvdV>> member R46.SYSOP
MvdV>> member ru.binkd
MvdV>> XLATIMPORT CP866
MvdV>> XLATLOCALSET CP866
MvdV>> ENDGROUP

AV> I'd have a look whether it's possible.

OK, thanks.


Cheers, Michiel